Comments on: Whew, E-verify postponed!

By: losing love handles

losing love handles — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 02:35:55 +0000

Really great post. I

By: Feldstein

Feldstein — Sat, 10 Oct 2009 04:06:34 +0000

Showing some love to this topic “new to this wordpress”. I defiantly agree with it also. If you really think about it than it all makes alot of sense

By: Robert

Robert — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 05:34:05 +0000

The common factor I see in most of these comments is to keep job opportunities for USA citizens and legal people. I do not see anything wrong on this but e-Verify like any other computer systems are not free of failure and to propagate this system in all USA companies is just ridiculous and irresponsible.
Can you imagine a system who just handles a tiny portion of all USA companies dealing with millions of transactions which could demand extreme scalability, strong security, and a nightmare in data consolidation? Well better not because currently this system produced some errors which could no be visible now but under the umbrella of a more bigger audience could increase exponentially.

By: Randy P.

Randy P. — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:19:01 +0000

Although not ‘required’ of us, my ‘Corporation’ has been using E-Verify (like Jeanette and Melissa) for about a year now and it is a VERY minor ‘burden’ (if any) and I believe an even smaller impact on “national security” (the ‘premise’ for the law). In reality, it is simply weeding out illegal workers, which is why the Chamber of Commerce is against it. If we don’t employ them, maybe they’ll leave and go thru the ‘process’ to get here legally, however ‘burdensome’ it is on THEM! Get over it, this requirement is long over due, and should apply to all employers, not just those with government contracts. It’s heartening to see the majority of posters in support of this. Anna’s comments are noted, put the government in charge of anything, especially information, and they’ll screw it up (at triple the cost), and there’s nobody intelligent enough (and/or available) to get it straightened out. Luci thinks there should be a grandfather clause. We had an employee who worked for us for 10 years (hired post 11/06/86, so we had an I-9) and ran him to find out he was an illegal with stolen (purchased) identity. He is no longer here. Thank you Patrick for recognizing what most of us in California have known for years. Many of Phil G.’s comments are valid. Although I don’t agree with all them, he brings some good points to the table for discussion.

By: Phil G

Phil G — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:01:16 +0000

It’s a complete waste of time and tax payer money! Companies that want to use illegals will pay with a little thing called cash. If its a tech firm, then more than likely they won’t have any illegals working for them anyway. And if they do, i’m sure they are not being underpaid and causing a burden to the oh so precious community they are living in. No, more than likely they have hired someone from India and sponsor then through a work visa. NOT because they are working for less but because there arent enough smart workers here. Probably due to the fact that people are concerned about the wrong things here in USA. You should be in an uproar about the high cost of college thats pushing us out of the workplace instead of blaming others.
The only ones hiring “cheap” labor are farm and services companies. You know the ones that work the fields and clean the buildings and bathrooms. With the minimum wage being as low as it is… they really don’t have to underpay anyone! Face it.. only peoples racist views and stupidity are what has and continues to keep this country down. It may be better than other countries in some ways, but not by much. Those jobs in California are jobs that have NEVER been done by anyone that wasn’t being oppressed. First it was blacks and now its Latinos. They cried for blacks to go back to Africa and now crying for Latinos to go back from where ever they are from. Stop using your racism and use your mind.
peace.

By: Keith Hamm, SPHR

Keith Hamm, SPHR — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:03:07 +0000

Max, corporations are not people. They are entitys. The people that run them can blame ‘the corporation’ for any number of sins, including hiring practices of hiring cheap labor from other countries instead of US labor. (There’s an excellent movie documentary titled “The Corporation”, in case you’re interrested. I think, from your comments, you might enjoy it.) As for e-Verify, I’ll do it because I have to. Yes, it’s a pain. And I’ll deal with the speed bumps when and if. Price I pay for being a masochist… er… HR professional.

By: Luci

Luci — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:47:35 +0000

I am sure they can adjust the policy to grandfather employees who have been with a company for several years. It is about time a layer of accountability is placed with these government contracts. I was under the impression that Proof of Citizenship and Social Security is required for employment in any company. Since tax dollars are paying for these contracts, I appreciate the extra step.

By: Anna

Anna — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:54:29 +0000

It is probably an excellent idea in theory but, in my experience with Federal computer systems they have great piles of erroneous information. This will result in workers whose families were citizens back to the colonial days being refused work because somebody didn’t enter the information properly. Then, there will be no human being that you can get to on the help line provided to help your company or the employee straigten out the snaffu. It will take weeks and months to straighten anything out at great costs to both the company and the employee.

Garbage in- garbage out.

By: Patrick

Patrick — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:09:14 +0000

The e-verify program is the best thing to come to this country. As Max said it’s all about cheap labor. The Chamber of Commerce is betraying all the workers of this country. The hiring practices of the companies that do not want e-verify are part of the reason the country and especially California is is the shape it’s in.

By: Melissa

Melissa — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:06:28 +0000

Max is right ~ we need to hire Americans, and not just go for the “cheap” labor. Companies should be held responsible.
My company has been verifying ss#’s for a year now, and it is wonderful! We need to do things LEGALLY, and e-verify helps us to do just that!